See also big discretionary spends
Background, by definition, my “peers” all have kids, and working in (financial) IT, often with 2 incomes.
Q: why am I feeling financially free but not the U.S. peers despite their higher income
A: My advantages are 1) burn rate 2) nonwork income
A: For their USD 90k burn rate supported by employee health benefit, at 4% reliable return, they need 2.25M invested.
A: For my SGD 36k burn rate supported by medishield, at 6% rental yield, I only need SGD 600k invested
- passive income — i.e. the incoming side —
- my projected real-estate passive incomes add up to S$4k+. Do some of my peers have a similar income? Not sure
- I think too few of my peers have seriously focused on reliable, consistent passive income
- burn rate — i.e the outgoing side —
- My burn rate is 20-30% lower than my peers in the same location. For example, during the initial stabilization period after my family comes, my burn rate is possibly 7k, including rent + med bx + car
- my actual SGP burn rate of S$4-6k is less than their USD9k, largely due to location difference and childcare. Rural China, Malaysia, India .. would be even lower. I think Rural America is somewhat lower but not sure how much. I can ask some U.S. colleagues
- In terms of “minimum” burn rate, I think their average in the U.S. is 2 to 4 times higher than mine in Singapore, largely due to medical, transport and rental cost.
- SG citizenship — offers cost advantages in terms of medical, college ..
- In the job loss scenario, my confidence about reducing burn rate is not echoed by U.S. peers. Can some of them cut from USD9k to USD5k? I assume yes but none of them shows confidence.
- I don’t aim to buy a 700k home or send my kids to private colleges. Free of these burdens.
- My minimalist lifestyle is rare among my peers. This lifestyle is not theoretical, but visible in action
- my confidence about my household burn rate is rare among my peers
— After the analysis, now a more casual look at peer’s burn rate:
I discussed with grandpa about a huge difference between me and my colleagues’ burn rates.
This difference is rooted in their long-term optimism about their earning growth and stock market returns.
(In contrast, my self-confidence about my salary sustainability is based on IV.)
One thing easy and really useful to do with money matters is break-down analysis.
I can see my younger (and some in 40’s) colleagues spending more than I do on food, rent, mortgage, car, vacations, entertainment, gadgets, kids’ enrichment ..
These are often big-ticket items or creature-comfort spending, and clearly luxury IMO
Many believe food is never a big ticket item, but I think they spend $40/D i.e. $15k/Y vs my 4k/Y.
Q: sometimes I feel I can’t (allow myself to) cut further down below my peers because my family could then feel deprived, but can I?
A: I think I some capacity to ignore the peer pressure and maintain my superior brbr.
— In Sep 2020, I discussed “livelihood pressure” with DeepakCM. I described a fictitious family earning 250k [1] combined. Deepak said after-tax 150k/Y or 12.5k/M.
If they spend 10k/M then Brbr is stressful not comfortable. I feel comfortable brbr is 2.0+ but I guess the typical family is unlikely to save half the income.
Deepak pointed out that immigrants leave their home countries behind, and come to U.S. in search for a better life, so these high-income families would spend to enjoy. Lifestyle creep — a stark contrast to my financial discipline.
Q: If these immigrants are able to “accept/cope with” a simpler life but choose to enjoy a better, more /comfortable/ (actually lavish) life, then why do they complain about livelihood pressure like depicted in 中年男士40-50压力最高@@?
A: It depends on the acceptance — like my carefree acceptance vs reluctant, grudging acceptance. I think exclub and FOMO are fundamental /drivers/ in these high-earning immigrants. They are driven to spend, and driven to endure livelihood pressure. Some are unable to say NoThanks, as I described to my sis.
Q: Are they on cashflow high ground, with their high income?
A: No necessarily.
Q[1]: 250k … what if combined income is 300k? I think by most wealth-management standards that income would put the family in a different league . Indeed, some of my U.S. (I didn’t write “SG”) friends, my ex-classmates, and possibly my sister are in the “wealthy” exclub and not comparable to the rest of us. Their livelihood pressure, their Brbr, their assets are not comparable to mine.