“move”rEstate portfolio to SG] %%twilight years

I have always agreed to the prudent advice that as we age, our risk appetite drops and we should rationalize/adjust our rEstate portfolio to less risky countries. Every country has risk factors, but SG remains the least risky.

— geo-concentration risk .. minor concern as SG is my home country.
Q: if I were to invest 300-600k in a SgCP, which existing property would I sell to create a higher allocation to stocks like 200k? Net effect is worse concentration to rEstate, worse geo-concentration to SG, but it is probably prudent, esp. in my retirement.
A: perhaps BGC

I am already more geo-diversified than most peers. See %%riskTolerance: which countries feel OK

 

4th khm unit #OPM

— rare attractions of Cambodia shops

  1. 10Y rental guarantee, hassle-free, but credit risk
    • reducing (not eliminating) non-deterministic “GC” distraction when I’m under stress at work at at home
  2. shops or Grade-A office — precious but location may not take off. Many China buildings are competitors.
  3. quantum is much smaller than even a residential unit
  4. currency — rare in affordable countries
  5. reputable mgmt agency

–in early 2019, I told Susan Lee my 3 main concerns about a 4th unit — OPM reserve depletion; infatuation + concentration risk; leftover units

  • 🙁 liquidity — This investment is not same as NY savings products that you can exit at any time.
  • 🙁 left-over units, same price but lower value than other units
  • 🙁 5.5% is much lower than 7% in BridgeRetail, but need to consider U.S. haircut
  • 🙁 too high concentration? Total USD 350k, still lower than a single unit in Bayonne or SG
  • 🙁 infatuation — Am currently swept off my feet by 10Y guarantee + CapitalLand + Shangri-La brands. Remember my overzealous investments into Unifund and commodities (1997) and high-yield bond (2013). It’s better to cool down for a few weeks, discuss with Jack or another fellow investor in depth and explore both the positive an negative.
  • In contrast, I feel the 3rd shop unit (first PeakRetail) was a fairly aggressive decision, given the cash position I have, using wife’s 70k and grandpa’s 26k.

— funding strain –> Need to rebuild OPM reserve NOT another shop

  • + I have 25k + 10k + 10k across U.S. banks. Negligible loss if withdrawn now
  • + I can cash out the 2.5k from Chip
  • + I can cash out the 6 GS shares
  • + I have USD 9900 from grandpa but I have already borrowed 16k from grandpa — a sign of infatuation and overzealous investor.
  • – I already borrowed and invested 70k from wife and 16k from grandpa — a sign of infatuation
  • – I already exhausted the warehouse fund from Jay Hu — sign of infatuation
  • – BGC ? may need to borrow from wife — a sign of infatuation
  • – tight schedule — half the payment is due by 30 Jun 2019, the other half at TOP possibly end of 2019.
  • Conclusion — Without OtherPeople’sMoney (like grandpa’s and wife’s), I really can’t afford such a shop unit.

 

location key-tag: psf sg^Cambodia

The top 3 key factors are location, location and location. Location is key, but needs a “key-tag” i.e. psf price level, which needs to factor in GRR and office building grade. Grade-A psf would be much higher than grade-B

  • On one extreme, SG is great location but I rule it out because of psf price level.
  • On the other extreme, Land-banking locations are cheap but hopeless.

Diamond island office location is less mature than bkk1 but could be popular with Chinese companies..

PPCC psf ought to be lower than any gradeA office in bkk1 area. Note BridgeSoho is not real office.

If you were to consider MIH as a high-yield bond (with a 95% put option), then location wouldn’t matter in theory.

MIH: high-yield bond

Flatiron, AsiaProperties and Energy12 are high yield bonds that could default like Majestic Village.

Credit risk is the main risk, bigger than location risk, country risk etc. In fact, if you were to analyze Flatiron as a high-yield bond (with a 95% put option), then location [1] doesn’t matter in theory.

If we investors have confidence/experience in or deep knowledge on MIH, then Flatiron would be a hot bargain for all of us, to be snatched up within hours. That’s basically what I did with PeakRetail. Perhaps some of the CASA/Skylar investors snatched up the Flatiron small units likewise.

Credibility translates to higher demand and lower “discount” in the form of GRR. If MIH were a prestigious builder operating in the U.S. or Europe, offering their assets as a REIT, the GRR would be much lower, due to stronger credibility.

[1] location risk, maturity levels, asset country risk, retail/Grade-A sector risk, or supply/demand ,,, don’t matter in that theory. However, in reality, location matters at a fundamental level as location underlies credit risk, MIH cash-flow and and appreciation potential.

— history and credibility

  • Skylar 5Y GRR paid since 2018
  • CASA 5Y GRR paid since 2017
  • Ascott partnership since 2017, approved within a month
  • non-zero credibility in textile industry

–Compared to the other PP investment “choices”:
🙁 lesser known developer than Oxley
🙂 Ascott lending credibility on the residential portion. Unlike all other “choices”
🙁 high quantum
🙁 location — higher uncertainty, more raw
🙁 location — if no take-off within 10Y, then I would rely on developer to rent out my unit. They may not have my best interest.
🙁 location — may be hard to sell
🙂 location — hedge against the bkk1 district. capture the potential for both

— 10Y GRR 82% (after-tax) over 10 years.
before tax it is 5% 6% 7% 8% 9% 10% 11% 12% 13% 14% = 95%
10Y GRR is quarterly bank deposit
current office space rental yield is 7-8%, lower than shops
— psf
PeakRetail is around SGD 1k psf
Flatiron is SGD 766 psf
— put option : exercising it has a cost — one-time transaction cost (taxes + legal etc) borne by investor. Estimated at 5%
However, after talking to Stephanie of Oxley, I feel this put option is a big insurance, backed by the credit of MIH.
— ask about debt level — no borrowing in Cambodia.
— read the contract on-site. Not too long
— tax payment procedure: Can ask PropNex local people to pay on my behalf
— ask why the GRR is different for hotel
hotel rental yield is less stable, up and down through the year.. But I think it’s due to lower credibility and lower discount; also Ascott takes a big cut. She didn’t object.

shop unit: water point to combat online shopping

— shops are robust, thriving assets in congested cities. Shop units are still precious in many congested cities. Online retail requires delivery through traffic.

— many affluent or older buyers prefer seeing the real thing.

— Different countries have very different competitive landscapes. Singapore cinemas are doing fine but U.S. cinemas are closing.

— When television became widespread, print media were doomed, but look at now.

–Stella said for luxury goods, physical shops offer an experience

I think it’s similar to the cinema experience.

–email to Susan Lee 28 Jan

I now realize waterpoint provides some protection against the growing destructive competition from online shopping.

When you and Stella first pointed out the significance of water point I wasn’t convinced. Now I realize most retail business models are under increasing threat from online shopping. Units with water points can often become a retail business that’s less threatened, such as F&B, clinic, hair saloon, or food business….

Luckily, my two BridgeRetail units both have water points.

##Phnom Penh locations: maturity levels

— CBD — appears to be the most mature commercial center.

I don’t know the exact location of the CBD, but PPCC seems to be next to the crowded CBD.

— bkk1 — district is mature as a shopping/retail district, esp. anchored by Aeon and Nagaworld. My 3 shop units are in the right location.

Orchard has office demands too.

— Diamond island — has some maturity as commercial location but i feel the location has limited potential as a 2nd CBD

Much more developed than PPCC.

— PPCC — most raw, most uncertain, but with the highest potential as a commercial office location.

However, Flatiron psf price is too high if without GRR.

BGC 1BR NGRY≈5% #def[NGRY]

Update : 5% NGRY is lower than other parts of Manila and also other global cities. Two reasons for the lower NGRY — A) luxury studio and B) not a shop.

For the same reasons, Vietnam luxury residential properties are low-yielding, but rental demand is worse than than BGC.

— Hi Raymond,

Nominal gross rental yield is calculated as monthly rent * 12 / salesPrice

I used to think BGC rental yield is 8%-10%. Now I think it’s much lower, more like 5%. I found on Philippines rental websites that One Uptown 33-sqm units are asking for PHP 35000 a month.

If we are lucky to rent out for 12 months, total rental is PHP 420,000 = SGD 10860 = 5.4% of 200k price we paid.

If we factor in vacant periods (could be 1 to 2 months), taxes, wear and tear, we get a net rental yield (NRY). I think 4.5% NRY would be very lucky for us.

(Why so low? I feel it’s because we paid a high price at SGD 200k. Jason got a very good deal.)

Luckily, Chun Tih is on the ground to manage for us, so things are not hopeless.

Luckily, the surrounding area is improving faster than other parts of BGC, so rental might have a chance to increase.

Beware romanticizing over 10Y guarantee

I’m not detached, objective about the 10Y guarantee.

  • beware credit risk. In contrast insurance payout is much more guaranteed than the GRR
  • beware capital depreciation risk
  • my Cambodia and BGC real life experiences tend to create a false sense of “in-depth experience”. Actually not in-depth, because the sample size is way too small to be statistically significant.
  • It’s not over yet. I have not received USD sales proceeds.
  • Phnom Penh is NOT another Singapore or Hongkong
  • The big brands (Shangrila or CapitalLand) are off the hook. These brands suffer no reputation damage if the 10Y guarantee is broken. This is similar to a celebrity endorsing a company that could go bankrupt soon.
  • it’s 10Y only, not lifetime

Top 3 “risk-factors” NOT covered by the 10Y guarantee

  1. location — could be inferior, so the developer has to offer the 10Y guarantee.
  2. developer credibility — cash flow,,,
  3. overpriced

[15] BGC(+BridgeRetail)risks

IFF we ignore currency risk, then market risk is somewhat lower than Singapore(?) given BGC is an up-and-coming location with growing population and rising demand.

When we feel demand is strong, ask yourself “who have seen a realized profit?” Can I easily emulate him/her? Until we get realized profit all the  good things are PAPER profits. The clouds are still over our head.

[t=related to trust and professional ethics]
— risks

  • Risk – legal rights.
    ** by right, should (get an attorney to) review the contract before handing over money
    ** [t] Q: Do I own it? Can I sell it freely? Yes
    ***Looks like the title deed isn’t useful. The developer must be credible. Gov can’t do much.
    ** [t] Q: Can I take the money out of the country? yes, use bank remittance
    ** Rumor about RM$1m regulation
    ***no such regulation now
  • Risk – heavy reliance on a local rental agent
    ** experience with our #4-116 unit? Not too bad
    ** Q: take up rate in this location and at this price? No such stat
    ** [t] Q: what if agent says vacant but …
    ** Q: indemnity against illegal activity by tenants? Yes
  • Q: tax rate on rent and capital gain? See http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Asia/Philippines/Taxes-and-Costs
  • Risk – oversupply driving down rent and resale valuation
  • Risk – no tenant? Well, most locations across Manila would face higher risk of vacancy. This location is among the most convenient, so if we lower the price we should get taken up
  • Risk – price already rather high (hype). Can locals afford it??
  • Risk – currency … could wipe out all gains.
  • Risk – maintenance cost. Without upkeep the unit would deteriorate.
  • Risk – delay in completion
  • Risk – political / economic stability…not as good as the developed countries, where property prices are much higher. Philippines is clearly an emerging market, with high uncertainty.
  • Risk – street safety. Will foreigners want to rent and live there? But it’s easy to stereotype and dismiss many locations:
    ** SFO earthquake
    ** Beijing air pollution
  • Risk – 2008-style GFC could hit foreign investors’ hot money
  • Risk – S$200k is still a big amount. As a commitment phobic, I always prefer smaller amount and shorter timeframe. I sleep better when the amount invested is small.

— good parts

  • timeframe
  • studio available… I always prefer small but superior locations
  • rental yield (offset by running costs)
  • Not a well-known residential market like HK, Shanghai, Sydney, so have potential for appreciation
  • PH is at least a known competitive and pro-business location (better than many emerging economies)
  • up and coming location. Price could double over 5-20 years. Endorsed by the government, big banks, embassies, international schools, hotels in-demand. Doesn’t mean good, but at least this is better than a place without demand

— comparable market prices
Crescent park serviced apartment 1BR p4000/night; F1 hotel Deluxe p6300/night… However, these numbers have proven largely irrelevant.

Bridge/Peak after 10Y #wishful thinking

This discussion applies to Both BridgeRetail + PeakRetail

It totally depends on the rental demand developed over the years. I basically assume demand stays at today’s level. In such a scenario,

  • I could sell my unit, with a local agent. Sales tax is rather low according to Susan Lee.
  • I could keep renting it out via a local agent. Luckily, shops generally rent for longer term than residential

I consider my view as /optimistic/. In contrast, the greedy crowd believe that capLand will do a better job so foot traffic and rental demand might grow much much higher. Susan said “in that scenario things would be very stable”. However, the optimism is classic hot-money mentality, largely /wishful thinking/.