I think there’s a high chance that Dabao may not be the academic type to benefit from a Ivy League education. So I don’t need to set aside big amount 🙂
Category: t_college
AP course@high school
An AP module can earn you more than the “maximum” credit of 4.0
A top high school would offer many AP courses, but an average high school may offer none.
Some Asian parents are very serious. They would confront the high school teacher and demand an answer why their son or daughter was not admitted into an AP course.
It’s all about competition.
positive discrimination favoring minorities: U.S.uni
For tech disciplines, Asian boys from top high schools face higher bars to enter MIT (of any top uni)
- Dilip told me an Asian family with a brother/sister, about same academic standard. Brother couldn’t get into Stanford but the sister easily got in, because there are so few girls apply to that department.
- Also, there are too many Asians in some of the top universities so the admission office decide to raise the bar for Asian applicants.
- I heard from many colleagues that admission office look at not only absolute score, but also ranking within the high school. They could accept a #1 student from average school but reject a 10th percentile student in a top-rated high school, even though the #1 student scored much lower in a national standardized test like SAT. Many Asian parents complained about this.
[18] 20 unbelievable bargains
Lookalike? Unlike ##G5 personal winn`bets: long-term impact@livelihood, this blogpost is not about big bets.
- [u=unbelievable. I would not have entertained such a suggestion a few years earlier; unbelievable bargain; too good to be true.]
- Defying my common-sense, becuase our intuition is completely unreliable in these cases.
- These are often unexpected successes, and deserve in-depth analysis
- [v= “undervalued” in terms of my subconscious valuation or market valuation, when I bought]
- [h= top 5 heavy hitter]
- —
- [hh v] I “bought”SG early, when it was undervalued
- — education
- [h v] UChicago — the Nobel prize count lent prestige on my degree. My $cost and tcost was very high, but in 2013 the prestige was undervalued.
- [h vv] Singapore universities — charge a fraction of the U.S. private universities but offer comparable quality.
- — ccost (calorie cost)
- [u] rice pudding
- nonfat ice cream
- [u] washed and heated baby carrot — tasty like starchy foods but very low calorie and high fiber
- my lentils — whole box is 600 cal, extremely filling, whereas 100 gram of peanuts (1/4 of my 小金生 packet) has the same calories. Why the hell do I worry about my lentils?
- — $cost (prices)
- [uv] Malaysia (retirement) — offers decent healthcare and rental homes at a fraction of the U.S. costs. You would think quality must be questionable but reality could be completely different.
- yoga classes — are SGD30 each or SGD 155/M. In the U.S. it’s $32×12+50 below USD36/M
- fruits in Chinatown — sell at a fraction of supermarket price… You would think rotten, but mostly good.
- —salaries
- [u] According to my chat with the Macquarie support chap, a bright engineering fresh graduate like him in Singapore earns SGD3500/M or SGD 40k/Y but USD 120K pretax in NY
- a 8Y+ programmer earns SGD 70k/Y but USD 150k pretax in NY
- java job pays 20% higher than perl jobs and offer far more opportunities.
- [u] Front office trading IT jobs pay higher than PWM jobs, sometimes less stress and many more opportunities. Unthinkable in 2007.
- — workload and stress
- Qz job — pays no higher than MS job but 5 times higher stress partly due to perm job and limited job market in SG.
- GS job — pays about half the 95G, Barc or citi jobs, but 3 times higher stress
- — investments
- [u] Some properties don’t appreciate much, with GRY 4%, but my BridgeRetail has guaranteed NRY of 7%. Too good to be true.
- [h] My Blk 177 — property yields current rental income every year until 2010 and then gave a windfall.
- [h] CPF-life — a real bargain compared to other annuities.
[19]spent250k@branded uni but your kid outshone by colleagues
Q: suppose over four years you spent USD 250k on a top college for your son but a year after graduating, he is doing fine in a bank or a tech shop, but not a top performer among a cohort of fresh grads across comparable employers. Would you regret spending the 250k?
You get to know , let’s suppose, that some of the kids in the same batch graduated from lesser-known (U.S. top 100 or Asia) colleges but very “hungry” and no less talented technically or inter-personally than your son.
You get to know that these kids are luckier with their bosses and their projects.
You probably accept that “luck” is fairly random and doesn’t favor the top college grads.
You probably accept a graduate’s motivation is not correlated with the school fees spent.
You probably accept many talented students go to less-known colleges, possibly due to scholarships, or closer to home, or the national rating of their chosen major — a lesser known college may be highly rated in some niche domain.
You may argue that those other kids must be cream of the crop in those lesser-known colleges. Well, we don’t know. Academically, they could be the top 10% in their college, or merely top 30%, but they sure did well in job interviews. So it’s actually not that hard for a second-tier college grad to get into this same firm or a competitor firm.
You may argue that as a parent you did the best for your son including the 250k funding, so no regrets. Well, the parent (who happens to be your schoolmate) of one of those kids also did her best saving 250k for something worthwhile, like a property investment, or starting a business, or taking a lower-paying job to spend more time with her daughter. So you can’t say your schoolmate didn’t provide the best for her daughter.
You may argue that given whatever wealth in your family, the best wealth preservation is education, the best education there is in the market. If we look at (imprecisely defined) quality of education, I don’t think the branded colleges offer a quality well above the rest. Right now, your son is at essentially the same level with those other grads without a prestigious degree, and you may be able to project 5 years out. Is there any wealth preserved in this top-college education, beside a badge of honor like “I went to Harvard”?
So was it really rational to have committed 250k some 5 yeas ago when a few reputable 2nd-tier colleges promised to offer more affordable quality education? I assume you are not someone who doesn’t need to care about a 250k small amount.
I have met many fresh or recent grads while working in Goldman, Citigroup, Merrill (U.S. and Singapore), Barclays, Macquarie, NYSE, Morgan, … Some graduated from top colleges. I also studied among some 50 young classmates in my UChicago graduate program. I can see the overall individual competence level is uncorrelated with the colleges’ prestige. The most talented young guys are often Indians, from unknown colleges. So I’m 100% convinced that top colleges don’t have any monopoly on talent.
In my profession (and possibly many professions) , a new grad’s success depends on motivation, talent and opportunity, among other things. None of these three factors has any correlation with the prestige of the college. It’s not a shame your son doesn’t really outshine those grads of second/third tier colleges. It’s fair competition on a level play ground. Every grad gets an equal chance to compete on their talents and drive.
[19]branded uni 一流大学一年 6-8万 美元
==21 Dec 2018, 07:27==
查了一下最著名的 20 所美国私立大学, 清一色都是一年 5万 – 6万。 加州伯克利 (U.C. Berkeley)州立大学是公立大学最著名的,也要一年四万。
我问了好几个美国同事(非华人),学费差别是一个不可忽视的考量。他们会一家人权衡是否选附近州立大学,作为本州居民可以享受学费优惠。 他们也讨论知根知底有品质的二流大学,因为比较容易获得奖学金。(一流私立大学极少发奖学金给本科生。)
四年省下 10 万 (甚至15万)美元, 对这些白领中产阶级家庭也是有意义的。
说到这里我就意识到, 富裕家庭,不必在乎多花十几万美元,送孩子去最有声望的名校。(据我的美国同事所说,美国大学知名度完全取决于科研成果。我觉得这是几个因素当中最重要的。)
华人同事呢, 好像都提前几年为每个孩子存下 25 万美元准备进名校。我没这个计划。我的家庭收入应该是比不上大多数美国白领华人家庭的。我会认真考虑送女儿来新加坡上大学, 学费低多了。
更重要的原因 (我亲身体会)– 名校与否,只影响毕业后第一次找工作。一旦成功进入某公司,A 校 B 校 两个毕业生谁强谁弱有目共睹,自己也心知肚明 — 名校与否毫无影响。美国的顶尖公司,我觉得基本上是不看出身的。许多毕业生靠面试能力,或私人关系,进入某个顶尖公司,而没有付 25 万美元的名校学费,或许更划算。
富裕家庭不在乎这点钱。我周围的华人家长,似乎都是大气凛然地置之度外。但是我对追捧名牌一直抱怀疑态度。
四年名校教育并非“点石成金”,只可以镀金一层。我一直相信,一个优秀的学生(我算一个,我的小舅子莹辉也算一个),放在哪个有品质的大学都能成材,并不会因为学校不出名而受多大影响。送孩子去个高质量而不闻名于世的大学 (比如美国前 200 名大学,或新加坡的几所大学)并不会耽误孩子前程。父母不必自责。
澳洲,新西兰,加拿大都没有闻名于世的大学可以比肩美国 20 强 (多伦多大学,悉尼大学或许可以)但每年都为本国培养了众多人才,教学质量有目共睹, 学费较低,都是可以考虑的。(英国学费太高。)
==Fri, 21 Dec 2018, 21:08==
谢谢爷爷回复。我非常在乎你的见解, 经常告诉我的同事、朋友们“我老爸也这么认为”,把你的观点当作靠山。
好像很少华人家长有你这种洞察力。 或许他们有洞察力但还是随大溜。或许他们不缺这 50 万美元 (两个孩子的名校学费)。